Curse

MithranArkanere · Jan 26, 2008, 02:14 AM // 02:14

I still find senseless to have to go PvP or to an elite mission to get inscribed a drop that is 'representative' of a certain area, like Jade and Amber weapons, or the Echovald shield.

It's like going to the grocery to buy nails.

RavagerOfDreams · Jan 26, 2008, 02:16 AM // 02:16

eww god no making all weps incr would deal the finishing blow to are alrdy dying economy

and a tyrian q8 15^50 longsword is worth more then a destroyer wep :P

MithranArkanere · Jan 26, 2008, 02:31 AM // 02:31

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Originally Posted by RavagerOfDreams

eww god no making all weps incr would deal the finishing blow to are alrdy dying economy

and a tyrian q8 15^50 longsword is worth more then a destroyer wep :P

A longsword being more worth than a rare skin, I fear, is reason FOR inscriptions worldwide, not against.

Going back to the car analogy, would like having an Tata Nano cost more than a Ferrari because you can't change the wheels of the Tata...
That's... insanely senseles...

Due to inscriptions not being worldwide:
- Non-rare skins with certain modifiers may cost more than rare ones.
- Non-rare skins with inscriptions that only drop in a couple o chests may cost way more than their uniscribable counterparts.

Completely ilogical.

RavagerOfDreams · Jan 26, 2008, 02:47 AM // 02:47

lol rare skin???
destroyer weps r hardly rare
ther worth like 60kish i think thats not really all that rare
15k armor costs more

MithranArkanere · Jan 26, 2008, 03:06 AM // 03:06

I would like to answer correctly your post, but I can barely understand it.

Of course armors cost more. You usually bring 1..2 armor sets and 2..6 weapons.
But what about Elemental swords? Are they 'hardly rare'?

Value and rarity are different things. Rarity is given by the game, value by players.
But if drops make common things become valuable and rare things become cheap... there's something wrong.

I won't pay a single gold coing for a crystalline skin, but I would pay up to 50k for an inscribed Jitte or a Shinobi Sword. Considering I don't play much with my Warrior.

If they add the market, I wonder if people would always set the 'show only inscribed items' checkbox...

RavagerOfDreams · Jan 26, 2008, 03:12 AM // 03:12

w/e way u look at it mithran destroyer weps are not rare or expensive...
u get em from a crafter and they cost 40-60k thats not rare or expensive

ur giving me a headache with this pointless arguing ><

Konig Des Todes · Jan 26, 2008, 05:21 PM // 17:21

/signed
I'm not into selling, only in skins *rarly* and usability. I have seen many faction and prophecies drops that are good for everything except the inscription, and I would rather use those then sell them. Except for a few "rare" things, I always sell to merchant anyways and I have been wanting to have proph and faction weps inscribable so again. /Signed

MithranArkanere · Jan 27, 2008, 03:54 AM // 03:54

Lately I've been asking around ingame, and I get always the same answer.

Between the inscribed and the non-inscribed version, if the base, upgrades and the modifer is the same, most people pick the inscribed item.

The rest asked me 'what skin are we talking about'. When I answered 'any', that 'rest' answered 'inscribed'.

If everyone want inscribed weapons better, won't be better to get them all inscribed? That way we would sell more!

RavagerOfDreams · Jan 27, 2008, 06:56 AM // 06:56

we would sell more at a cheaper price though

so we'd either lose money or gain none...

MithranArkanere · Jan 27, 2008, 12:57 PM // 12:57

Not really.

When it comes to core skins:
The chances of getting one perfect inherent gold are low.
While the chances of getting a perfect inscribed core gold are more, but not extremely high, since they share drops with much more skins in the places where they drop.

When it comes to factions skins:
The chances of getting a certain skin as a perfect inherent gold are very low, due to more different skins dropping.
While the chances of getting a certain perfect inscribed gold are just low, due to limited sources.

That would actually 'flatten' earnings. And just the rare skins would have high prices.

The main two reasons I'm so hard for inscriptions worldwide are the most common skins and the usability.
Absolutely non-rare skins, like a core fire staff, having extremely low chances of dropping perfect, even lower than rare skins. That should not happen.
And not being able to change a variable property if you don't like it.

They already did so with insignia, and I've heard not many people complaining.

Kanyatta · Jan 27, 2008, 06:36 PM // 18:36

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

If everyone want inscribed weapons better, won't be better to get them all inscribed? That way we would sell more!

No, not "everyone" wants inscribed weapons more, that's just what your PvE guild/alliance thinks.

Seriously, if every skin in the game could be inscribable, there'd be no reason to seek out rare prophecies skins anymore, because they would have the same value as a common Nightfall skin.

Basically, if this idea were implemented, it would be the final kick in the groin to the weapons market.

Arduin · Jan 27, 2008, 06:57 PM // 18:57

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Originally Posted by Kanyatta

Basically, if this idea were implemented, it would be the final kick in the groin to the weapons market.

Can't see why that would be a bad thing. I've always thought it to be very annoying that a req 9 15^50 whatever could be sold for ten stacks of ecto, whereas the same skinned req 9 14^50 is worth shit. Just slap some other inscription on it and you can create the weapon you want. No need to farm your head of for some skin you like, just buy it from another player for 5k.

/signed

PinoyRurik · Jan 27, 2008, 07:12 PM // 19:12

/not sign.

inscription just made everything crap-er.
old skool > crafter > inscription.

RavagerOfDreams · Jan 27, 2008, 07:43 PM // 19:43

yea if u got incr weps in factions ppl would farm the rare skins i.e golden pheonix blade and wat do u kno that price would drop...

You can't see me · Jan 27, 2008, 11:12 PM // 23:12

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Originally Posted by PinoyRurik

/not sign.

Inscription > Crafter > Old School > Expensive Old School >>>>>>>> Expensive old school with garbage inherit mod.

Fixed. 12 Chars.

MithranArkanere · Jan 27, 2008, 11:38 PM // 23:38

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Originally Posted by Kanyatta

Seriously, if every skin in the game could be inscribable, there'd be no reason to seek out rare prophecies skins anymore, because they would have the same value as a common Nightfall skin.

Eh... mate... there are NO Propheces unique skins.
All items dropped in Prophecies are core items.

And the Factions unique items may drop inscribed in the Deep, Urgoz and Zaishen chests.

So... al skins can be obtained inscribed already.

It seems that such final kick has been given.

Before the Deep, Urgoz and Zaishen chests, factions skins where factions skins. But now, they are just crappy skins compared to those that drop while playing normaly in factions.

Why should people that play vanquishing in echovald get only useless unmoddable trash like an +1(Spawning Power, 14%), +35 health (while hexed) Echovald shield things and someone that plays only PvP get a req9Inscribable Echovald shield?

Kanyatta · Jan 27, 2008, 11:55 PM // 23:55

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Originally Posted by Arduinna

Can't see why that would be a bad thing. I've always thought it to be very annoying that a req 9 15^50 whatever could be sold for ten stacks of ecto, whereas the same skinned req 9 14^50 is worth shit. Just slap some other inscription on it and you can create the weapon you want..

It is a bad thing, because if everything dropped inscribable, the req 9 15^50 would be worth the same as a req 9 14^50, which as you say, is worth shit.

MithranArkanere · Jan 28, 2008, 12:43 AM // 00:43

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Originally Posted by Kanyatta

It is a bad thing, because if everything dropped inscribable, the req 9 15^50 would be worth the same as a req 9 14^50, which as you say, is worth shit.

No. The 15^50% would be paid SEPARATELY.
And if they added weapon traders, you could sell the 14^50%. to them.

What's more importan, it's that with this, a longsword is a common drop and a Vertebreaker it's a not-so common. And no lonsword would have a higher rarity than another.

XDDD

I've actually vanquised some areas while opening chests.
I have 10 areas left in Nightfall, and in all that time I've found around 8..10 items I could really use with any of my 10 characters, out of more than 40x24=960 drops, and I'm not talking about skins, I'm talking about req9 perfect inscribed items, regarless of skins, the skins where things with rarity like undead bows and shark tooth shields and things like those, nothing special.
There rest of the items where given to guildies, salvaged or sold to merchant.

With the old system, from all those 960, not a single one of those would be useful.

I only hope that Xunali Market not being just a gossip.
Then you'll see how people prefer to buy the inscribed stuff.

MirkoTeran · Jan 28, 2008, 07:33 AM // 07:33

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

No. The 15^50% would be paid SEPARATELY.

Oh, so it will cost 500g more. How in the world will people afford it? I guess its time you start a thread now how every player should be given some free mods and inscriptions....

Mithran, just drop the subject will you. You won't convince the people who like the old system, and we won't convince you otherwise.

DarkGanni · Jan 28, 2008, 08:04 AM // 08:04

Personally I would want Proph/Faction drops to be inscribable atleast I can get the items I wish at AFFORDABLE PRICES.

/signed

Flame all the hell you want idc